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03/15/2022 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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01:33:17 PM Start
01:34:00 PM SB124
02:47:08 PM Adjourn
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Heard & Held
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      SENATE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                    
                         March 15, 2022                                                                                         
                           1:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator David Wilson, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Shelley Hughes, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Mia Costello                                                                                                            
Senator Lora Reinbold                                                                                                           
Senator Tom Begich                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 124                                                                                                             
"An  Act relating  to admission  to and  detention at  a subacute                                                               
mental health  facility; establishing a definition  for 'subacute                                                               
mental health  facility'; establishing  a definition  for 'crisis                                                               
residential  center'; relating  to  the  definitions for  'crisis                                                               
stabilization   center';  relating   to  the   administration  of                                                               
psychotropic  medication  in  a  crisis  situation;  relating  to                                                               
licensed facilities; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 211                                                                                                             
"An  Act  relating  to  the   Alaska  Police  Standards  Council;                                                               
relating  to the  Department of  Public Safety;  relating to  the                                                               
duties  of the  attorney  general; establishing  the Missing  and                                                               
Murdered Indigenous  Women, Girls, and Two-Spirit  Persons Review                                                               
Commission;  requiring a  report on  investigative resources  for                                                               
cases of missing  and murdered indigenous women,  girls, and two-                                                               
spirit persons; and providing for an effective date."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 124                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES & MEDS                                                                                    
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER CARPENTER, Healthcare Policy Advisor                                                                                    
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 124.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
RENEE MCFARLAND, Deputy Public Defender                                                                                         
Appellate Division                                                                                                              
Alaska Public Defender Agency                                                                                                   
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 124.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
NANCY MEADE, General Counsel                                                                                                    
Office of the Administrative Director                                                                                           
Alaska Court System                                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 124.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
STEVEN BOOKMAN, Senior Assistant Attorney General                                                                               
Human Services Section                                                                                                          
Civil Division                                                                                                                  
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 124.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:33:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DAVID WILSON  called the Senate Health  and Social Services                                                             
Standing Committee meeting  to order at 1:33 p.m.  Present at the                                                               
call to  order were Senators Costello,  Reinbold, Hughes, Begich,                                                               
and Chair Wilson.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
             SB 124-MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES & MEDS                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:34:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON announced  the consideration of SENATE  BILL NO. 124                                                               
"An  Act relating  to admission  to and  detention at  a subacute                                                               
mental health  facility; establishing a definition  for 'subacute                                                               
mental health  facility'; establishing  a definition  for 'crisis                                                               
residential  center'; relating  to  the  definitions for  'crisis                                                               
stabilization   center';  relating   to  the   administration  of                                                               
psychotropic  medication  in  a  crisis  situation;  relating  to                                                               
licensed facilities; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[SB  124 was  previously heard  on 4/27/21,  5/4/21, 5/6/21,  and                                                               
3/8/22.]                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:35:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  referred to page  1, line 9, to  paragraph (1),                                                               
which  read, (1)  the arresting  officer believes  in good  faith                                                               
that  the person  is suffering  from an  acute behavioral  health                                                               
crisis; and". She said that it sounds vague.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:36:43 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:37:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   WILSON  reconvened   the   meeting.   He  recalled   that                                                               
Commissioner  Cockrell  had  testified   that  the  Alaska  State                                                               
Troopers (AST) and other law  enforcement agencies provide mental                                                               
health or  behavioral health training.  He offered his  view that                                                               
this provision means that the  officer had training applicable to                                                               
this situation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:38:00 PM                                                                                                                    
HEATHER  CARPENTER,  Healthcare  Policy Advisor,  Office  of  the                                                               
Commissioner, Department  of Health  and Social  Services (DHSS),                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska, agreed  that Commissioner  Cockrell stated  that                                                               
officers receive that training.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:38:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD said this raises a  major red flag in this bill.                                                               
She  stated   that  the  bill   should  have   clear,  measurable                                                               
identifiers.  She  asked  her  to   identify  the  mental  health                                                               
professional referred to in Section 4.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER reminded  members that the first  ten sections were                                                               
conforming edits, so the underlying  statutes that were passed in                                                               
2020  were  not  changed.  She indicated  that  a  mental  health                                                               
professional would  be one at  an evaluation facility  as defined                                                               
in  AS  47.30.915.  She  related  that  she  previously  provided                                                               
members with  a "cheat sheet"  for their reference. She  read the                                                               
definition.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:39:39 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:42:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  reconvened the meeting  and asked  Senator Reinbold                                                               
to restate her question.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:45:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD referred  to page 2, line 12, and  asked for the                                                               
definition of "mental health professional."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:45:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CARPENTER stated  that the  definition was  in AS  47.30.915                                                               
(13),  which  is  the  definition  section  for  the  involuntary                                                               
commitment statutes. She read:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     (13) "mental health  professional" means a psychiatrist                                                                    
     or  physician  who is  licensed  by  the State  Medical                                                                    
     Board to practice  in this state or is  employed by the                                                                    
     federal  government; a  clinical psychologist  licensed                                                                    
     by the  state Board  of Psychologist  and Psychological                                                                    
     Associate Examiners; a  psychological associate trained                                                                    
     in  clinical psychology  and licensed  by the  Board of                                                                    
     Psychologist and Psychological  Associate Examiners; an                                                                    
     advanced  practice  registered  nurse or  a  registered                                                                    
     nurse with  a master's  degree in  psychiatric nursing,                                                                    
     licensed by the  State Board of Nursing;  a marital and                                                                    
     family therapist  licensed by the Board  of Marital and                                                                    
     Family  Therapy; a  professional counselor  licensed by                                                                    
     the  Board  of   Professional  Counselors;  a  clinical                                                                    
     social  worker licensed  by the  Board  of Social  Work                                                                    
     Examiners; and a person who                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          (A) has a master's degree in the field of mental                                                                      
          health;                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          (B) has at least 12 months of post-masters                                                                            
          working experience in the field of mental                                                                             
          illness; and                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          (C) is working under the supervision of a type of                                                                     
          licensee listed in this paragraph;                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:47:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  referred to  page 3,  lines 27-31,  to language                                                               
being deleted from the bill. She read:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     [A  PSYCHIATRIST  OR  PHYSICIAN   WHO  IS  LICENSED  TO                                                                    
     PRACTICE  IN  THIS STATE  OR  EMPLOYED  BY THE  FEDERAL                                                                    
     GOVERNMENT, OR A CLINICAL  PSYCHOLOGIST LICENSED BY THE                                                                    
     STATE   BOARD   OF   PSYCHOLOGIST   AND   PSYCHOLOGICAL                                                                    
     ASSOCIATE EXAMINERS]                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD expressed  concern that it seemed  as though the                                                               
administration was watering down who was allowed to do this.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER offered  her view  that this  was not  watering it                                                               
down.  All  those  eliminated  individuals  were  listed  in  the                                                               
definition  of  "mental  health   professional."  She  said  that                                                               
stating a  "police officer" or  "health officer"  will streamline                                                               
it  in statute  and cross-reference  it  to the  definition of  a                                                               
"mental health professional."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:48:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  asked if deleting  the language was  making the                                                               
definition broader,  but she  maintained her  belief that  it was                                                               
watering it down.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER said  that  the language  is  not deleted  because                                                               
those types of  professionals were found in the  definition of "a                                                               
mental  health professional."  Instead  of  listing all  provider                                                               
types, she said the overarching  "mental health professional" was                                                               
used,  and the  definition  included the  professionals found  in                                                               
that definition.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:49:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD restated  that it doesn't make sense  to her why                                                               
those  terms are  being  deleted. She  said she  did  not want  a                                                               
"health  officer" making  those  decisions; that  someone who  is                                                               
trained and educated should do so.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:50:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON stated  that it  might  be helpful  to discuss  the                                                               
process for involuntary commitment.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:50:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES said  she understood  Senator Reinbold's  concern                                                               
and wants  to ensure  the psychiatrist  or highly  trained people                                                               
are involved.  She referred to  the definition of  "mental health                                                               
professional"  and  noted  that  psychiatrists,  physicians,  and                                                               
clinical psychologists are listed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD   said  her  question   was  directed   to  the                                                               
department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:51:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON noted  that it might be helpful for  members to know                                                               
that the  professionals are  not being  removed from  the process                                                               
but the terms are being deleted  and redefined in the section Ms.                                                               
Carpenter just read.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:51:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO wondered if a layperson  would know to go to the                                                               
definition  section  of  the  statute  to  find  the  definitions                                                               
pertaining to the  bill section. She asked if it  might be better                                                               
to lay  it out in  statute and  not worry about  streamlining the                                                               
language. She  related that  the value of  law-making is  to make                                                               
the  statutes very  clear  so the  layperson  can understand  the                                                               
statute's intent.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CARPENTER   responded   that  the   term   "mental   health                                                               
professional"  is  used  extensively throughout  these  statutes.                                                               
Thus, when a  provider or peace officer reviews  the statute, the                                                               
same consistent term  would be used throughout. She  said the new                                                               
term "health officer" is used  because public safety, physicians,                                                               
and the  court use this part  of the law. She  explained that the                                                               
definition  of  "peace  officer"  didn't align  with  how  "peace                                                               
officer" was  used in  the rest  of the  statutes. The  change in                                                               
Version B  was to split  that definition so that  "peace officer"                                                               
had the  same meaning  elsewhere in  the statute.  The department                                                               
also created  the term  "health officer"  by adding  an emergency                                                               
medical technician,  paramedic, and  firefighter, because  of how                                                               
EMS and the Mobile Crisis teams will work.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:55:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BEGICH  referred to  page 2, line  12, and  asked whether                                                               
"mental health professional" was in existing law.                                                                               
MS. CARPENTER answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:56:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BEGICH  asked whether the  definition for  "mental health                                                               
professional" was in existing statute.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH referred to page 3, lines 27-31, which read:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     [A  PSYCHIATRIST  OR  PHYSICIAN   WHO  IS  LICENSED  TO                                                                    
     PRACTICE  IN  THIS STATE  OR  EMPLOYED  BY THE  FEDERAL                                                                    
     GOVERNMENT, OR A CLINICAL  PSYCHOLOGIST LICENSED BY THE                                                                    
     STATE   BOARD   OF   PSYCHOLOGIST   AND   PSYCHOLOGICAL                                                                    
     ASSOCIATE EXAMINERS]                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH asked whether that  language was still included in                                                               
Section 11 of the bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:56:50 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   BEGICH  related   his  understanding   that  additional                                                               
professionals fall  under health  officers, which  clarifies what                                                               
was meant by the differing  roles, with health officers taking on                                                               
some  roles ascribed  to  peace officers.  Thus,  the bill  would                                                               
ensure that  the definitions include  the professionals  who take                                                               
on the roles.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER agreed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:57:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH recalled  that members  made  suggestions at  the                                                               
last  meeting,  and the  department  responded.  He said  he  was                                                               
satisfied with the department's  responses, but he lacked clarity                                                               
on the resolution process.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER  explained that  she  had  been working  with  the                                                               
committee  aide.  She said  she  would  provide the  department                                                                 
responses  to   Mr.  Gottstein's  suggested  amendments   to  the                                                               
committee.  She noted  that the  department was  comfortable with                                                               
the suggested  changes but made  minor changes to  the medication                                                               
suggestions, and  Mr. Gottstein  was satisfied with  the changes.                                                               
She said Chair Wilson could decide how to proceed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  responded that she  described the process  he had                                                               
hoped would be taken.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON noted  he shared some emails  with members regarding                                                               
                                     th                                                                                         
the questions related to the March 15letter.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:59:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked  whether there is a  statutory definition of                                                               
"health officer" or if it was added to the bill.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  responded that it was  in the bill. He  referred to                                                               
page 11, line 22, to the definition of "health officer."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:59:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD   paraphrased  portions   of  Section   11,  AS                                                               
47.30.705(a), inserting  the definition of "health  officer." She                                                               
said a  health officer means  a state, municipal, or  other local                                                               
health   officer,   public   health  nurse,   emergency   medical                                                               
technician,  paramedic, firefighter,  or a  person authorized  by                                                               
the court  who has  probable cause  to believe  that a  person is                                                               
suffering from  mental illness may  cause the person to  be taken                                                               
into custody. She  indicated that it was significant  to her. She                                                               
asked whether all of these people had that authority.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER answered  yes; all of the people  in the definition                                                               
of  "health officer,"  except for  emergency medical  technician,                                                               
paramedic,  or firefighter  currently have  that authority  under                                                               
the definition of "peace officer" in AS 47.30.915.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:00:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  asked whether the bill  creates new definitions                                                               
and facilities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER responded that if this  bill were to pass, it would                                                               
authorize these professionals to take  individuals in an ex parte                                                               
hold  for care  at the  crisis stabilization  centers and  crisis                                                               
residential   center   locations.   She  explained   that   these                                                               
professionals  were   already  authorized  to  take   people  for                                                               
treatment at the  Alaska Psychiatric Institute (API),  one of the                                                               
three designated  evaluation and  treatment center  hospitals. If                                                               
those  facilities are  unavailable,  these  individuals would  be                                                               
taken to an emergency room or  jail until they can be transported                                                               
to one of those facilities.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:01:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD asked whether any  new category of a patient can                                                               
be taken  to one of  the new facilities  or if there  is anything                                                               
different that can be done to these patients.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER  answered  that  no new  category  of  patient  or                                                               
respondent  could be  taken  into custody.  She  referred to  the                                                               
language  in  Section 11,  stating  that  "gravely disabled,"  is                                                               
defined in AS 47.30.915, the definition section.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:02:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  referred to  page 3, line  31, to  the language                                                               
"who  has  probable  cause  or  is or  suffering  from  a  mental                                                               
illness.  She  offered her  view that probable  cause was  a very                                                               
low  bar  and more  people  were  involved that  could  transport                                                               
people to  facilities where a  broad spectrum of things  could be                                                               
done. She  said she would like  the record to reflect  anyone new                                                               
involved in  the process  and anything new  that could  happen in                                                               
the new facilities.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER answered  that the type of care  provided would not                                                               
change, that  it would  be the care  that the  statutes currently                                                               
allow.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD related  her understanding  that the  bill does                                                               
not allow any new diagnosis and no new people would be involved.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:03:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CARPENTER  agreed  she  was correct.  She  referred  to  the                                                               
language she  was reading in Section  11 that it is  the probable                                                               
cause  that a  person is  gravely  disabled or  suffering from  a                                                               
mental illness  and is likely  to cause  serious harm to  self or                                                               
others. She  read, "of such immediate  nature that considerations                                                               
of  safety  do not  allow  initiation  of involuntary  commitment                                                               
procedures set  out in AS 47.30.700,  may cause the person  to be                                                               
taken into  custody...." She stated  that this language  causes a                                                               
person to be taken into custody.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:04:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  asked if she  was saying that nothing  new will                                                               
happen  in  the  crisis   residential  and  crisis  stabilization                                                               
centers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER reiterated  that there was nothing new  that is not                                                               
allowed under current  law. She stated that the bill  would add a                                                               
provision that  allows providers  who can give  crisis medication                                                               
today   to  do   so  at   the  crisis   residential  and   crisis                                                               
stabilization centers. Thus, providers  who currently give crisis                                                               
medication  and  meet  the threshold  could  give  medication  to                                                               
patients at the new centers.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:04:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON  stated  that  this  bill  would  allow  additional                                                               
capacity to treat these individuals in a less acute setting.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CARPENTER  agreed,   adding  that   it  would   also  allow                                                               
individuals to obtain care much  more quickly instead of being on                                                               
a waitlist to receive care.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked her to elaborate on the reason for the bill.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER responded  that the  Alaska Disability  Law Center                                                               
sued the state because individuals  in need of mental health care                                                               
had to  wait in  the Anchorage  Correctional Facility  until they                                                               
could receive  treatment at  API or one  of the  three designated                                                               
evaluation and  treatment center facilities. She  related that it                                                               
could  be  argued that  their  constitutional  rights were  being                                                               
harmed because the  state could not get these  patients into care                                                               
in  a timely  manner.  One  outcome of  that  settlement and  the                                                               
ruling by Judge Morse was that  the state would find locations to                                                               
perform the evaluations  in other less restrictive  areas. SB 124                                                               
established crisis residential centers for this reason.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:06:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD  asked  for  the  status of  API  and  who  can                                                               
administer psychotropic medication.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CARPENTER   answered   that  physicians,   advanced   nurse                                                               
practitioners, and  physician's assistants have the  authority to                                                               
prescribe crisis medications.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD asked  her  to confirm  that  only those  three                                                               
professions could administer crisis drugs  and the types of drugs                                                               
that could be administered.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:07:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON pointed  out  that there  is  a difference  between                                                               
prescribing and  administering medications. For example,  a nurse                                                               
can administer  a medication that  is prescribed by  a physician,                                                               
an advanced  nurse practitioner,  or a physician's  assistant. He                                                               
clarified that  an entity licensed  to administer  the medication                                                               
could  do so  if  prescribed  by one  of  the authorized  medical                                                               
professionals.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:08:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CARPENTER  explained  that  Senator  Reinbold  had  asked  a                                                               
similar  question last  April, and  the  department responded  in                                                               
writing on the  types of crisis medication. She said  it would be                                                               
impossible  to list  all the  drugs, but  she provided  different                                                               
categories.  She pointed  out that  crisis medication  was short-                                                               
term  to address  the immediate  crisis. She  said this  does not                                                               
relate  to long-term  prescribed  medication.  She further  noted                                                               
that   patients   normally  must   consent   to   and  agree   to                                                               
prescriptions.  For  example, patients  at  API  must consent  to                                                               
medications  to control  their high  blood  pressure, which  will                                                               
remain the same.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:09:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD related  her understanding  that  no one  would                                                               
administer psychotropic medication without informed consent.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER answered that crisis  medications might be the only                                                               
instance  without   informed  consent   because  of   the  crisis                                                               
definition.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:10:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD  asked  who would  be  responsible  if  someone                                                               
experienced  a   "psychiatric  episode"  and  was   given  crisis                                                               
medications. She  offered her belief  that informed  consent must                                                               
be mandated.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:10:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON  suggested that  the  committee  could discuss  the                                                               
procedure and process for notifications  and how the court system                                                               
will notify parties.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:11:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BEGICH  asked Ms. Carpenter  to clarify that SB  124 does                                                               
not add any new parties who can administer crisis medication.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER  answered that no new  individuals would administer                                                               
crisis medication.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  recapped that the  reason the bill is  before the                                                               
committee is that  the Disability Law Center sued  the state. The                                                               
state  worked  with  the  litigants of  recipients  of  care  who                                                               
believed  that the  state  had failed  them.  The Disability  Law                                                               
Center  (DLC)  was  successful,  so the  state  is  settling  the                                                               
lawsuit. The  DLC stated on  the record  that SB 124  meets those                                                               
conditions, but  patient groups raised other  considerations that                                                               
could be  added to the bill,  beyond what the DLC  agreed to. The                                                               
department held  formal conversations and  agreed to add  some of                                                               
those patient considerations outlined in Mr. Gottstein's letter.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:13:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CARPENTER agreed with his summary.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  stated that the department  is effectively making                                                               
a broader  array and  less invasive  services available  to those                                                               
experiencing a  psychotic episode or suffering  a mental illness,                                                               
which was the point of the Disability Law Center lawsuit.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER  agreed, adding  that the  bill would  provide more                                                               
immediate  care.  She  stated that  the  emergency  room  doctors                                                               
provided  a  letter  of  support  that  spoke  about  individuals                                                               
waiting in  emergency rooms  that have  been stripped  to prevent                                                               
patient injuries  and that have a  medical professional observing                                                               
until the  patients could be  taken into care. During  this time,                                                               
these patients  lacked the crisis  psychiatric care  they needed.                                                               
She  recalled that  Commissioner Cockrell  had mentioned,  during                                                               
the hearing last  week, that patients are handcuffed  in the back                                                               
of patrol vehicles while awaiting  care at a facility. She stated                                                               
that SB 124  would add tools to the toolbox  that the state needs                                                               
in the involuntary commitment statutes.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:14:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH asked  whether the  Disability  Law Center  would                                                               
have  settled  with  the  department  if  it  would  place  those                                                               
suffering from psychotic episodes  and mental health illnesses in                                                               
a more vulnerable position.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER explained  that she  took part  in the  settlement                                                               
negotiations  with  the  Disability  Law Center  and  the  Public                                                               
Defender Agency,  the other  party to the  case. She  opined that                                                               
they would not have settled  and Superior Court Judge Morse would                                                               
not have  signed off on  the settlement. She said  the department                                                               
truly  is moving  in  less restrictive  ways,  noting that  Judge                                                               
Morse said the state could not  remedy the lawsuit by adding more                                                               
beds to API as the only solution.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:15:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH asked  if  SB  124 appeared  to  meet the  issues                                                               
regarding patient rights.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:16:21 PM                                                                                                                    
RENEE  MCFARLAND,  Deputy  Public Defender,  Appellate  Division,                                                               
Alaska  Public  Defender  Agency, Department  of  Administration,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  stated that  she was not  completely familiar                                                               
with the  agency's role  in the  settlement negotiations,  but if                                                               
the facilities  and procedures in  the bill are funded,  it could                                                               
remedy some of the observed  issues. She stated that sometimes it                                                               
doesn't actually end up working  as intended. The Public Defender                                                               
Agency   has  pointed   out  some   provisions  that   may  raise                                                               
constitutional concerns.  However, she  suggested the  bill would                                                               
generally  help  their  clients.   She  stated  that  the  agency                                                               
supports  the provisions  that would  prevent their  clients from                                                               
being held  in jail and  hospital emergency rooms  while awaiting                                                               
admission for treatment.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:17:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH  related  that the  committee  discussed  patient                                                               
issues Mr. Jim  Gottstein raised at the last hearing.  He said he                                                               
heard from  Mr. Gottstein that the  bill was moving in  the right                                                               
direction. He  asked whether the  bill would address some  of the                                                               
concerns, and  whether the public defender  agency would continue                                                               
monitoring SB 124 to ensure the law is enacted as intended.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MCFARLAND explained  that Version  B addresses  some of  the                                                               
concerns,   including   providing   legal  counsel   for   people                                                               
experiencing  a behavioral  health  crisis as  soon  as they  are                                                               
detained.  She  stated that  it  was  not  clear in  the  earlier                                                               
version of  the bill when that  would occur. She related  that in                                                               
Version  B, the  Public  Defender Agency  would  be appointed  to                                                               
every person being detained at  a crisis residential center, just                                                               
as  they are  appointed to  everyone being  held for  the 72-hour                                                               
evaluation  in  current  law. She  acknowledged  that  the  sheer                                                               
volume  of cases  makes it  difficult for  the agency  to monitor                                                               
everyone,  but appointing  an attorney  was one  of the  concerns                                                               
noted in  the original bill.  She related  that she would  try to                                                               
address any concerns during implementation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  asked Ms. Meade  to review the  court's involvement                                                               
in the Title  47 hold process and the effects  of SB 124, Version                                                               
B.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:20:37 PM                                                                                                                    
NANCY  MEADE,  General  Counsel,  Office  of  the  Administrative                                                               
Director,  Alaska Court  System, Anchorage,  Alaska, stated  that                                                               
under AS  47.30, the court  is involved in  involuntary admission                                                               
for  treatment.  As  Ms.  Carpenter   mentioned,  those  held  or                                                               
detained  involuntarily  held  during   the  initial  stages  are                                                               
limited  to  certain facilities  in  the  state. Sometimes  those                                                               
individuals  end up  in jail,  which  is not  optimal. This  bill                                                               
would create  a subacute level  of care, something less  than the                                                               
current hospitals.  Currently under  AS 47.30,  when a  person is                                                               
first taken  to a facility, a  petition is filed with  the court.                                                               
The court holds  an ex parte hearing and  makes certain findings,                                                               
including that  the person  is gravely  disabled or  is suffering                                                               
from mental illness  and is likely to cause serious  harm to self                                                               
or others. If the person involved  determines that it is not safe                                                               
to wait and  file a petition and have the  court do an assessment                                                               
and issue  an order within  48 hours, then the  proceedings occur                                                               
under  AS 47.30.705,  which is  in Section  11 of  the bill.  The                                                               
court  would hold  an  ex  parte hearing  immediately  and set  a                                                               
placeholder hearing.  The court could  authorize the hold  for 72                                                               
hours  and,  within  the  72  hours,  would  set  a  time  for  a                                                               
subsequent hearing  if the  medical professionals  determine that                                                               
the person needed to be held  longer. The current law allows that                                                               
second hearing for a 30-day mental commitment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:23:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MEADE stated  that SB 124 would allow the  person to be taken                                                               
to a  subacute facility, crisis  stabilization center,  or crisis                                                               
residential  center.  The  court  would  hold  another  ex  parte                                                               
hearing  immediately. If  the  court grants  it,  the court  will                                                               
notify  everyone, including  the public  defender, guardian,  and                                                               
attorneys.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEADE  explained that  the  court  would set  a  placeholder                                                               
timeframe  for the  medical person  in  charge to  seek a  mental                                                               
commitment or  to seek  a lower-level subacute  hold for  a 7-day                                                               
hold  at a  crisis residential  center because  they believe  the                                                               
person's  mental health  problems could  be resolved  during that                                                               
timeframe.  Thereafter,  other   proceedings  could  take  place,                                                               
perhaps during the 7-day hold. If  the court orders a 7-day hold,                                                               
but the medical  professional believes the person  needs a 30-day                                                               
commitment to a hospital, a petition would be filed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE  highlighted that  the court would  be involved  in the                                                               
initial  ex parte  stage and  notifies everyone  and would  set a                                                               
time period for a potential next hearing within 72 hours.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:24:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD agreed  that members do not want  those who need                                                               
treatment held in  jails or emergency rooms. She  wondered who is                                                               
responsible if a patient, without  consent, is given psychotropic                                                               
medications  and has  an  episode. She  referred  to Article  10,                                                               
Patient Rights.  Sec. 47.30.817.  She wanted  to be  certain that                                                               
patient rights apply in the new subacute facilities.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:25:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MEADE answered  yes. She referred to page 7,  lines 21-31, to                                                               
Sec.  47.30.709.  Rights  of Respondents  at  crisis  residential                                                               
centers and crisis  residential centers; psychotropic medication;                                                               
time.  She  read  the  language  on  page  7,  line  29,"...  the                                                               
respondent has  the rights  identified in  AS 47.30.725  and.  It                                                               
goes on to  identify which ones apply specifically  to the rights                                                               
for adults.  She referred to the  rights of minors at  the top of                                                               
page 8.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:26:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD  requested  confirmation  on  the  record  that                                                               
patient rights  in AS  47.13.817 through the  end of  the chapter                                                               
apply to the new subacute facilities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE responded  that her reading of page 7,  line 21 through                                                               
page  8, line  15,  and  the rights  and  procedures  set out  in                                                               
Article  10  of existing  law  apply  to the  crisis  residential                                                               
centers  and  crisis   stabilization  centers  regarding  patient                                                               
rights and the involuntary administration of drugs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:28:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  related  her   understanding  that  parents  and                                                               
guardians of  minors are  notified when  a hearing  is scheduled.                                                               
She  wondered if  parents  and guardians  of  nonminors would  be                                                               
notified and  if they would  be notified  of any outcomes  of the                                                               
hearings if they could not attend.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE answered that the  respondent's guardians are notified.                                                               
She directed  attention to  page 6,  line 2  that says  the court                                                               
shall notify  the respondent, the respondent's  attorney, and the                                                               
respondent's guardian.  She stated  that court orders  are always                                                               
provided and  once the respondent's  guardian is notified  of the                                                               
hearing,  they are  on the  distribution list  and receive  every                                                               
court  order  in  the  case.  She  referred  to  Section  16,  AS                                                               
47.30.715, page 9, line 27 that  requires the court to notify the                                                               
respondent's guardian of the procedure for mental commitments.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:29:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES recapped that parents  and guardians of minors and                                                               
parents and  guardians of nonminors  are notified of  any hearing                                                               
and would be put on the list  to receive the outcome of any order                                                               
given.  Thus, they  would know  at the  72-hour hearing  that the                                                               
patient would  be released, sent  to a 7-day  residential center,                                                               
or  a 30-day  facility.  She related  her  understanding that  it                                                               
happens under current law and would continue under the bill.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:30:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  MEADE responded  that  it was  generally  happening now  for                                                               
mental commitments, to  the extent that the court can  do so in a                                                               
timely  manner.  This  bill  would   require  notice  for  mental                                                               
commitments  and  for all  of  the  hearings  and holds  for  the                                                               
subacute facilities,  the crisis residential centers,  and crisis                                                               
stabilization centers.  She offered her  view that the  rights of                                                               
parents and guardians are enhanced under this bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  related a  scenario,  noting  that minors  often                                                               
spend  many  hours away  from  their  parents or  guardians.  She                                                               
asked, if  a behavioral health  crisis involving a minor  were to                                                               
occur, would  law enforcement be  called to  take the minor  to a                                                               
crisis  stabilization  center.  She  further  asked  whether  law                                                               
enforcement would be required to  notify the parents or guardians                                                               
that their child  was taken to a crisis  stabilization center. If                                                               
not, the bill would need to be amended.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:31:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MEADE answered  that was not a question for  the court system                                                               
because  the court  wouldn't find  out about  someone taken  to a                                                               
crisis stabilization  center, a 24-hour center,  until a petition                                                               
is filed with the court.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES offered  her view that parents  should be notified                                                               
within a reasonable timeframe.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER deferred to Mr. Bookman.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:33:12 PM                                                                                                                    
STEVEN   BOOKMAN,  Senior   Assistant  Attorney   General,  Human                                                               
Services Section,  Civil Division, Department of  Law, Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  stated  that Version  B  requires  that all  notices  be                                                               
served on the respondent and to  the parents or guardian when the                                                               
respondent is  a minor. He  related that the Alaska  Court System                                                               
has a form  when an emergency hold occurs under  AS 47.30.705. He                                                               
stated that the  respondent is given the form, and  to the extent                                                               
that the form  is given to the  minor, the form would  be sent to                                                               
the minor's parents or guardians. He  said if the minor was being                                                               
taken to a  crisis stabilization center, this  bill would require                                                               
that the  same notice  would be  sent to  the minor's  parents or                                                               
guardian.  He   acknowledged  that  there  might   be  logistical                                                               
problems in finding the address or  how to contact the parents or                                                               
guardian.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:34:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  expressed concern that  there was not  a specific                                                               
timeframe. She  said if her child  or grandchild, if she  was the                                                               
guardian, were  going to be  picked up,  she would want  to know.                                                               
She  related her  understanding that  the first  notification was                                                               
the hearing notification.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  related his understanding  that two  questions were                                                               
comingled.  He understood  Senator  Hughes'  question related  to                                                               
notification when a police officer  picked up a minor. He related                                                               
that his  experience from  managing a  24-hour hold  facility for                                                               
juveniles was  that police try  to find parents or  guardians. He                                                               
opined  that it  might  be challenging  to put  a  time limit  on                                                               
notification as  the minor may  not be  coherent or is  under the                                                               
influence of  drugs or alcohol.  He said the committee  would try                                                               
to obtain the information from the Department of Public Safety.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES  offered her view  that it would be  reasonable to                                                               
attempt  to contact  parents immediately  or shortly  thereafter.                                                               
She acknowledged  that it might  not be possible to  guarantee to                                                               
reach  them.   She  wondered  if  guardians   are  notified  when                                                               
nonminors are taken to the crisis stabilization center.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  offered his  belief that once  the petition  to the                                                               
court  for  an  involuntary  hold occurs,  the  courts  would  be                                                               
required to notify the guardians.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE  responded that as soon  as a court grants  an ex parte                                                               
application, which happens within 24  hours, the hearing would be                                                               
set several  days later,  and the  parents and  guardians receive                                                               
notice, so long as the court  can locate them. She said the court                                                               
makes every effort to serve them.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:39:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES related that the  policy call for the committee is                                                               
whether  there should  be a  requirement for  law enforcement  or                                                               
crisis stabilization  center staff  to attempt to  notify parents                                                               
and guardians within the first  few hours. She voiced support for                                                               
such  a   requirement  and  suggested   the  committee   give  it                                                               
consideration  because  it otherwise  could  be  up to  24  hours                                                               
before the court would reach out.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:40:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD stated that the  notice was important. She noted                                                               
a  constituent  wanted to  ensure  that  the rights  of  disabled                                                               
psychiatric  patients are  protected.  Her constituent  expressed                                                               
concern  that  Alaska is  30  years  behind best  practices.  She                                                               
related that Article  10 addresses patient rights,  and she noted                                                               
provisions  within  the  article  that  address  various  patient                                                               
rights.  She  related her  understanding  that  these rights  are                                                               
protected in SB 124.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON  answered that  was  his  understanding from  Nancy                                                               
Meade  with the  Alaska Court  System, and  Mr. Bookman  with the                                                               
Department of Law.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:42:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MEADE stated  that under current law if someone  has a mental                                                               
health crisis or is believed  to be gravely disabled, involuntary                                                               
mental  commitments under  AS  47.30 were  the  only option.  She                                                               
stated that 1,880 72-hour petitions  were filed with the court in                                                               
2020, which  is for  initial involuntary  hospitalizations. There                                                               
were also 235 30-day involuntary  mental commitments. She related                                                               
that about  1,900 people were  admitted for three days,  but only                                                               
235  resulted  in  further  proceedings.  She  related  that  she                                                               
reviewed prior  years and the  highest number of  petitions filed                                                               
for the 3-day  hold involuntary hold was 2,500, of  which 167 led                                                               
to additional holdings.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:46:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES offered  a final summation that it  was helpful to                                                               
hear that according to statute,  an officer must determine that a                                                               
person is  in imminent danger  of hurting self or  another person                                                               
before  the   officer  can  transport   a  person  to   a  crisis                                                               
stabilization center.  She said it  was also helpful to  know the                                                               
crisis stabilization  center is less  restrictive than a  jail or                                                               
hospital emergency room setting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON held SB 124 in committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:47:08 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Wilson adjourned  the Senate  Health  and Social  Services                                                               
Standing Committee meeting at 2:47 p.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 124 Letters 3.13.22.pdf SHSS 3/15/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 124
SB124CS(HSS)-JUD-ACS-03-09-22.pdf SHSS 3/15/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 124
SB 124 - Overview of bill_CS 3.15.2022.pdf SHSS 3/15/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 124
SB 124 - SHSS Committee - Follow up 3.15.2022.pdf SHSS 3/15/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 124